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Mar 26
2009

Do Women REALLY Talk More Than Men?

Posted by Susan in storytellingmythslearningeducationamazing women

Mark Barker is right (partially). Queen Rania is wrong (partially). And I should have checked the facts more carefully…

Five days ago, I made a blog post titled Use Your Voice And Talk Man Talk in which I quoted Jordan's Queen Rania, who said in a pre-International Women’s Day video (that can be viewed a the aforementioned blog post): “Here’s a factoid for you:  women use 20,000 words a day, men use 7,000.”

As it turns out, it seems that Queen Rania’s “factoid” is more fiction than fact…

Number Crunching

In a comment on my post, AWR member Mark Barker proposed that 20,000 words would translate into one word per second for six hours. The calculation is correct. But that seems like awful lot of talking. Or is it?

words_rotated.jpgMark’s comment caused me to reflect.

I know from my work as a public speaking coach that people talk at average rate of about 125 words per minute, or about two words per second; some of us speak more quickly, some more slowly.

If we assume an average rate of speech of 125 words per minute, it would take 160 minutes in total (2.6 hours) to speak 20,000 words.

Of course, few women do all their talking in one block. We talk, we listen, we are silent. Conversation is interspersed throughout the day at work, at home, with friends, family, etc.

Let’s further assume that the average woman is awake, on average, 16 hours in a 24-hour day.

If that’s the case, an average woman, speaking 20,000 words in an average day at average rate would talk about 10 minutes per hour in a 16 hour day and actually be silent for 50 minutes each hour, or 13.4 hours in a 24-hour period (excluding the time she sleeps, during which, I’m guessing, she normally doesn’t talk. Unless of course she’s a sleep talker lol).

shhhhh.jpgOn the other hand, if it’s true that men speak only 7,000 words in a day, that would mean that the average man, speaking at an average rate, in an average 16-hour day would talk for only 56 minutes in the entire day, or 3.5 minutes each hour.

Shhhhhhhhhh. That’s more thank 15 hours of silence daily, not including eight hours sleep time. Well, I know guys who are quiet. But they’re usually not THAT quiet.

All of this number crunching further piqued my curiosity. Naturally, I turned to Google to see what I could find on the subject.

It wasn’t long before I stumbled upon what I can only describe as the most comprehensive single blog post that I have yet seen on any issue I’ve researched to date.

The eight-page, 3,341-word piece, originally posted in August 2006, is the work of linguistics professor Mark Liberman of the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia.

The post, which includes multiple useful links and updates, begins thus:

This morning, I spent a fruitless hour trying to track down the source of Louann Brizendine's assertion that "A woman uses about 20,000 words per day while a man uses about 7,000.”

I found many similar assertions, with estimates of the male lexical allowance varying from 2,000 to 25,000, while assertions about the female daily word budget ranged from 7,000 to 50,000. But nowhere could I find any evidence that anyone has ever supported these assertions by actually counting words or measuring talking times.

My current best guess is that a marriage counselor invented this particular meme about 15 years ago, as a sort of parable for couples with certain communication problems, and others have picked it up and spread it, while modulating the numbers to suit their tastes.
Liberman cites and dismisses numerous so-called sources of this “women talk more than men urban myth” as unreliable, including Allan and Barbara Pease, to whom Mark referred in his comment on my post.

Toward the end of his post, Liberman quotes "Understanding Gender Differences in Amount of Talk: A Critical Review of Research," by Deborah James and Janice Drakich, who say:

It is shown that the widely held belief that women talk more than men is unsupported in the literature. Of the studies reviewed that examined mixed-sex interaction, the majority found either that men talked more than women, or that there was no difference between men and women in amount of talk.
An article in Science, written after Liberman’s original post (and for which he is listed as a reference), adds further evidence to debunk the myth.

No More, No Less

Researchers and authors Matthias R. Mehl, Simine Vazire, Nairán Ramírez-Esparza, Richard B. Slatcher, and James W. Pennebaker, analyzed data from 396 participants (210 women and 186 men) that were conducted between 1998 and 2004. Participants wore voice recorders over a period of several days and their word use was extrapolated using a system explained in the article (I won’t bore you with the details, which you may read at your leisure here).

The bottom line according to Mehl et al?

…the data fail to reveal a reliable sex difference in daily word use. Women and men both use on average about 16,000 words per day, with very large individual differences around this mean…

…We therefore conclude, on the basis of available empirical evidence, that the widespread and highly publicized stereotype about female talkativeness is unfounded.
In other words, women don’t talk any more than men do – it’s an urban legend.

Men and women tend to talk about the same amount of time, with wide variations between individuals – some men talk a lot, some don’t; some women talk a lot, some don’t. Makes sense to me.

Thanks Mark, for making the comment and doing the calculation that caused me to reflect.

Your majesty Queen Rania, your numbers may have been wrong, but your point is absolutely correct.

Educating women and girls will make this planet a better place to be. Please continue campaigning to encourage women to make their voices heard, and reshoot your video to dispel yet another widely held misperception about women.

When you talk, people listen. No matter how many or how few words you use.
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written by mark barker, March 26, 2009
Here are the "empirical" facts according to me...
The women I know do talk more than men and ask any man or women of them.
Regional, cultural and language variations do alter the balance - some languages seem to require more words than others. I guess if you measured the average word count between Helsinki and Rome there would be some difference; perhaps word output between Arab men and Arab women may be closer in number than Europeans.
If a woman and a man are conversing, I know who is saying more words!
Women talk (interrupt!!) and listen to each other at the same time and, seem to be able to follow 2 or 3 conversations concurrently, ask any man who enters a room full of women what he hears... Noise.
Women seem to use a lot of unnecessary words (to men) to maintain a conversation's flow.
Men tend to be more specific in what they say, interrupt a man in mid-sentence is a recipe for a black eye. Men are expected to listen. When a man listens to a woman's conversation there appears to be far too many words; I do not react when a woman interrupts me as I understand it is her conversational style.
Sad to say, but on occasions I must ask my wife to stop talking as all the words start to give me a headache.
Why is it that my wife ambushes me with words the minute I walk in the house? Most men want peace and quiet for a least a short while. The only way to shut her up is to go to the toilet as it is the last place that she will follow me into.
The conclusion that I have is that Mehl et al need more research. I find the best way to converse with my wife is to let her do all the talking and only offer solutions when directly asked, as long as I maintain some form of eye contact she's happy and I let all the words flow over me. She's only trying to tell me about her day after all and share some time with me.
There are some male exceptions to this, politely named motor-mouths (a more pejorative term actually first springs to mind!), I tend to think these guys are generally defective, salesmen or gay or all...! Yes, they do give me a headache as well.
There is more truth in the 20,000/7,000, although the numbers may not be correct, and what about gestures? My wife has some corkers, don't know what they mean but it helps her talk.
Allan and Barbara Pease's book is still an excellent (and amusing) read to understand the differences.
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written by Susan Macaulay, March 26, 2009
Hmmmm. For someone who doesn't like to talk, you sure use a lot of words to say so smilies/wink.gif

As for 'empirical,' well, this all sounds more like hearsay than scientific method to me.

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written by Susan Macaulay, March 26, 2009
P.S. Muah!
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written by mark barker, March 26, 2009
by empirical, I mean my own experimental research data...
words or wordy?
It's the only way I get to fully speak my mind without being interrupted by a woman!
Thks for PS
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written by Susan Macaulay, March 27, 2009
Ah. Both. Sorry for all the interruptions smilies/wink.gif YW
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written by Zach, October 15, 2009
It is possible that women and men say on average the same number of words AND also that wives talk to their husbands much more than husbands talk to their wives. The research cited was not geared toward finding that out. In many married households, women stay at home and men work. It would stand to reason that stay-at-home mothers would talk less than career women. Also, many men work in professions that require a lot of talking, such as sales. In these households, the husband may want to relax and not talk, while the wife wants some stimulation and an adult to talk to so she talks to her husband. The total number of words is equal for both, but who they talk to and when they talk is different. So, though the average amount is equal, the perception for married men and women would be very different.
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